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Offline piasek_13

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Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« on: March 24, 2010, 03:28:21 pm »
Hi everybody.

My car is Mercedes 190 1991year.

Engine M103
straight 6
injectors from BMW 0280 150 778 @4BAR
COP from BMW
homemade trigger wheel 60-2  :D
homemade TPS  ;)
adjustible fuel regulator
VR sensor from Fiat Punto
Matiz IAT

Vems v3.6
firmware 1.1.67
P259 already broken  :(

Thats the movie of my car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDkgIHC3ZA4

I need some help. Spark advance is permanent 10deg and no change on it. How to unlock spark advance?
Thanks  for any help.
« Last Edit: July 20, 2010, 07:43:54 am by piasek_13 »

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 03:56:58 pm »
config?

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 04:57:13 pm »
Here's config:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ccija5zjjm0

# CurrentTime: 2010-03-24 10:18:35
# Creator: VemsTune 0.10.14 (2010.01.08)
# Version: 1.1.67
# SerialNumber: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
# CompilationTime: 2010-02-03 13:53
# Signature: VEMS v1.1.67 16x14 kpa=2,1
# CompileOptions: 0000001B

primep=32
primep_temp_scaling=30
awe_time_cold=72
awe_time_warm=28
cranking_thres=02
warmup_map_scale=E6
cranking_div=02
film_coeff=00
shiftcut_potlow=3C
shiftcut_pothi=FF
shiftcut_retcut=00
boost_matdec=24
boost_egtdec=50
iacref_matslope=67
shiftcut_minrpm=FF
egt_rich=8C
knock_rich=AA
knock_boost=C8
warmup_clt[0]=BB
warmup_clt[1]=AF
warmup_clt[2]=A4
warmup_clt[3]=9A
warmup_clt[4]=74
warmup_clt[5]=5A
warmup_clt[6]=34
warmup_clt[7]=1A
warmup_clt[8]=0D
warmup_clt[9]=00
warmup_rpm_scale=CC
req_fuel=96
divider=01
alternate=25
injopen=00
battfac=22
kpafac=7D
kpaoffs=9D
injocfuel=14
injrampup_battfac=FF
injpwm=FF
injpwmt=FF
als_launch_input=CC
launch_maxkpa=FF
launch_kparange=FF
tpsdot_kpadot_conf=00
tpsdotrate[0]=05
tpsdotrate[1]=0E
tpsdotrate[2]=20
tpsdotrate[3]=40
tpsaq[0]=0A
tpsaq[1]=14
tpsaq[2]=1D
tpsaq[3]=28
als_cut_mintps=FF
tpsasync=02
acmult=1D
tpsacold=08
launch_enrich=00
launch_retard=00
overrun_fuelcut=10
overrun_fuelresume=0D
rev_limit=42
airden_ignore=62
config11=50
config12=30
config13=CA
batt_cal=BD
iac2load=C6
als_max_cut=00
dbaro=07
tps_low=47
tps_high=93
fan_temp=55
fan_hyst=09
fan_channel=FF
iac_step_seq=C9
iac_conf=58
iac_max_steps=E8
iac_tps_thres=05
iac_cold_idle_temp=A0
iac_warm_idle_temp=CF
iac_cold_rpm=64
iac_warm_rpm=4B
iac_cold_start_pos=BE
iac_warm_start_pos=78
iac_afterstart_rpm=00
iac_afterstart_duration=1E
iac_speed=0A
iac_kp=21
iac_ki=0B
iac_kd=16
launch_rpm=FF
iac_integral_limit_dec=18
iac_integral_limit_inc=02
iac_integral_deadband=0A
launch_retard_margin=4B
als_cut_maxtps=FF
confswitch=84
iac_ref_pos[0]=58
iac_ref_pos[1]=53
iac_ref_pos[2]=48
iac_ref_pos[3]=43
iac_ref_pos[4]=3F
iac_ref_pos[5]=39
iac_ref_pos[6]=34
iac_ref_pos[7]=2E
iac_ref_pos[8]=2B
iac_ref_pos[9]=29
iac_sol_channel=60
iac_ign_slope=0E
softrpm_range=FF
iac_ign_advance_limit=0B
iac_ign_retard_limit=1B
iac_ign_threshold=04
ego_conf=07
ego_lag=02
ego_coolant=90
ego_maxtps=FF
ego_maxmap=FF
ego_minrpm=05
ego_maxrpm=C5
ego_warmup=01
ego_lean_limit=17
ego_rich_limit=03
ego_pid_kp=1D
als_enrich=00
ego_delta=02
ego_target=19
ego_pid_window=FF
ignretard_clamp=03
als_react_tps=FF
wbo2_abs_limit=F8
wbo2_limit_maxt=FF
wbo2_fallback=B1
wbo2_retry_t=03
als_retard_rpm1=FF
als_retard_rpm2=FF
wbo2_ri_target=96
wbo2_nernstdc_target=85
wbo2_pump_pw_zero=65
wbo2_calibration=BB
wbo2_heater_pid_kp=45
wbo2_heater_pid_ki=11
wbo2_heater_pid_kd=1A
wbo2_heater_pid_ilimit=81
wbo2_pump_pid_kp=15
wbo2_pump_pid_ki=4E
wbo2_pump_pid_kd=00
wbo2_pump_pid_ilimit=FF
inj_stage2_offset=80
knock_chan=01
knock_sampling_window=F3
knock1_frequency=29
knock1_gain=40
knock1_integrator=14
knock2_frequency=29
knock2_gain=40
knock2_integrator=14
knock_threshold=FF
knock_noise_scale=D8
knock_max_retard=3C
knock_default_retard=04
knock_retard_step=08
knock_retard_delay=FF
knock_advance_step=FF
knock_advance_delay=50
knock_minrpm=05
knock_maxrpm=32
ego_delay=CF
ego_minmap=FF
cold_ignadjust=80
crank_ve=55
film_enlean=00
iac_close_delay=28
iac_integral_lowmap=50
spare_vars[0]=28
spare_vars[1]=50
lcd_c0=8B
lcd_delay=FF
lcd_backlight=FF
kpa_conf=21
als_igncut_rpm2=FF
als_retard_mintps=FF
als_retard_maxtps=FF
lcd_default_view=00
primary_trigger=01
secondary_trigger=02
tooth_wheel=3A
trigger_tooth=00
another_trigger_tooth=14
crank_minper=00
tooth_wheel_twidth[0]=00
tooth_wheel_twidth[1]=18
cam_sync_r_edge_phase=33
cam_sync_f_edge_phase=46
reset_engphase_after=A0
ign_tdcdelay=75
ign_dwell14=4E
ign_dwellmap=00
ign_crank_advance=1C
ign_out=72
ignchmax=02
engine_off_delay=02
pump_on_mintime=08
fuelpump_channel=E6
inj_stage2_rate=FF
inj_stage2_start_tps=FF
inj_stage2_start_map=FF
als_igncut_rpm1=FF
als_deact_time=00
als_deact_egt=00
als_retard=00
als_rev_limit=FF
misc1out_minrpm=FF
misc1out_maxrpm=FF
misc1out_mintps=FF
misc1out_maxtps=FF
misc1out_minmap=FF
misc1out_maxmap=FF
misc1out_channel=FF
misc2out_minrpm=FF
misc2out_maxrpm=FF
misc2out_mintps=FF
misc2out_maxtps=FF
misc2out_minmap=FF
misc2out_maxmap=FF
misc2out_channel=FF
act_wot_rpm=FF
act_wot_channel=FF
act_rpm_rpm=FF
act_rpm_channel=FF
egt1_cal=4B
als_tks_channel=FF
boost_conf=00
boost_more=00
boost_minpressure=FF
boost_pid_kp=20
boost_pid_ki=80
boost_pid_kd=01
boost_pid_ilimit=FF
boost_channel=FF
water_pump_temp=00
hybrid_rpm_a=00
hybrid_rpm_m=00
water_pump_hyst=00
water_pump_channel=FF
toothrel_normal=86
toothrel_missing=B6
fuelcut_min_kpa=06
fuelcut_max_kpa=FF
tach_channel=FF
tach_div=10
shiftcut_conf_input=8C
shiftcut_tpsthresh=FF
shiftcut_time=FE
softrpm_rpm=42
n2o_mintps=FF
n2o_minrpm=FF
n2o_maxrpm=FF
n2o_retard=00
n2o_minkpa=FF
n2o_maxkpa=FF
n2o_input=FC
n2o_output_channel=FF
n2o_settings=FC
launch_out_channel=FF
launch_out_delay=FF
launch_out_pwmlow=FF
launch_out_pwmhigh=FF
launch_out_pwmramp=FF
launch_out_ontime=FF
launch_out_conf=FF
iac_minpwm=45
boostgauge_channel=FF
boostgauge_offset=FF
boostgauge_mul=FF
map_filter=13
speed_sensor=FF
gears[0]=FF
gears[1]=FF
gears[2]=FF
gears[3]=FF
gears[4]=FF
gears[5]=FF
blabla5[0]=3C
blabla5[1]=46
blabla5[2]=50
blabla5[3]=5A
blabla5[4]=64
vtstorage[0]=FF
vtstorage[1]=FF
vtstorage[2]=FF
vtstorage[3]=FF
vtstorage[4]=FF
vtstorage[5]=FF
vtstorage[6]=FF
vtstorage[7]=FF
iac_conf2=FD
warning_rpm=FF
warning_kpa=FF
warning_conf=FF
warning_adc_value=FF
warning_egt=FF
warning_afr=FF
warning_clt=FF
warning_channel=FF
injection_angle=FF
boost_tps_dc_scale=FF
n2o_mingear=FF
misc1out_conditions=FF
misc1out_condition1=FF
misc1out_condition2=FF
misc2out_conditions=FF
misc2out_condition1=FF
misc2out_condition2=FF
knock_gain[0]=FF
knock_gain[1]=FF
knock_gain[2]=FF
knock_gain[3]=FF
knock_gain[4]=FF
knock_gain[5]=FF
knock_gain[6]=FF
knock_gain[7]=FF
knock_reference[0]=FF
knock_reference[1]=FF
knock_reference[2]=FF
knock_reference[3]=FF
knock_reference[4]=FF
knock_reference[5]=FF
knock_reference[6]=FF
knock_reference[7]=FF
knock_calibration_min=FF
knock_calibration_max=FF
inj_add_trim[0]=FF
inj_add_trim[1]=FF
inj_add_trim[2]=FF
inj_add_trim[3]=FF
inj_add_trim[4]=FF
inj_add_trim[5]=FF
inj_add_trim[6]=FF
inj_add_trim[7]=FF
inj_deadtime[0]=FF
inj_deadtime[1]=FF
inj_deadtime[2]=FF
inj_deadtime[3]=FF
inj_deadtime[4]=FF
speed1_sensor=FF
fp_divider=FF
gears_delay=FF
blabla=F7
launch_speed1=FF
n2o_rich=80
speed_mintime=FF
accell_retard=00
cranking_clt_range[0]=50
cranking_clt_range[1]=64
cranking_clt_range[2]=78
cranking_clt_range[3]=AB
crank_enrich[0]=30
crank_enrich[1]=11
crank_enrich[2]=0A
crank_enrich[3]=00
afterstart_enrich[0]=11
afterstart_enrich[1]=0C
afterstart_enrich[2]=08
afterstart_enrich[3]=00
vvti_cold=FF
vvti_idle=FF
vvti_pid_kp=FF
vvti_pid_ki=FF
vvti_pid_kd=FF
vvti_pid_ilimit=FF
vvti_channel=FF
accel_rpm[0]=FF
accel_rpm[1]=FF
accel_rpm[2]=FF
accel_rpm[3]=FF
accel_scale[0]=00
accel_scale[1]=00
accel_scale[2]=00
accel_scale[3]=00
inj_stage2_conf=FE
als_tps_thres=FF
bla2[0]=52
bla2[1]=5D
bla2[2]=69
bla2[3]=74
bla2[4]=7F
bla2[5]=8A
bla2[6]=9B
bla2[7]=AC
bla2[8]=FF
inj_size[0]=00
inj_size[1]=F7
clt_curve[0]=FE
clt_curve[1]=BF
clt_curve[2]=AB
clt_curve[3]=9A
clt_curve[4]=91
clt_curve[5]=89
clt_curve[6]=83
clt_curve[7]=7D
clt_curve[8]=77
clt_curve[9]=71
clt_curve[A]=6C
clt_curve=66
clt_curve[C]=60
clt_curve[D]=5A
clt_curve[E]=51
clt_curve[F]=44
clt_curve[G]=3C
mat_curve[0]=FE
mat_curve[1]=BF
mat_curve[2]=A8
mat_curve[3]=9A
mat_curve[4]=91
mat_curve[5]=89
mat_curve[6]=83
mat_curve[7]=7D
mat_curve[8]=77
mat_curve[9]=71
mat_curve[A]=6C
mat_curve=66
mat_curve[C]=60
mat_curve[D]=5A
mat_curve[E]=51
mat_curve[F]=44
mat_curve[G]=3C
clt_range[0]=3C
clt_range[1]=46
clt_range[2]=50
clt_range[3]=5A
clt_range[4]=64
clt_range[5]=6E
clt_range[6]=78
clt_range[7]=8C
clt_range[8]=AA
clt_range[9]=B4
boostalt_channel=FF
h[0]=20 02 08 01 10 04 00 00
h[1]=00 28 14 00 00 00 00 00
h[2]=10 70 50 00 70 70 70 70
j[0]=2F 2F 2F 2F 30 31 32 33 33 35 36 37 38 3A 3B 43
j[1]=34 31 2F 32 35 36 37 38 38 3A 3C 40 44 48 4C 52
j[2]=34 32 31 35 3A 3D 3E 3E 3E 42 46 48 4A 4C 4E 51
j[3]=33 33 33 39 40 44 44 44 43 49 4F 50 50 50 50 50
j[4]=39 3A 3A 3E 41 42 42 42 42 4A 52 52 51 52 52 52
j[5]=3F 40 40 42 42 40 41 41 41 4B 54 53 52 53 53 53
j[6]=40 40 40 43 45 45 47 48 48 4F 55 55 54 56 57 57
j[7]=40 40 40 43 47 4A 4C 4E 4F 53 56 56 56 58 5A 5B
j[8]=42 42 42 44 49 4D 4F 51 52 55 58 58 59 5A 5C 5C
j[9]=44 43 43 44 4A 50 52 53 54 57 59 5A 5B 5C 5D 5C
j[A]=47 46 45 45 4C 55 57 58 59 5A 5B 5D 5F 60 60 5D
j=49 49 49 4F 54 55 5B 5F 63 66 68 68 67 69 6A 70
j[C]=4F 51 53 54 59 5F 64 68 6B 6C 6C 6B 6A 6C 6E 75
j[D]=52 57 5A 5B 5E 62 66 6A 6E 6E 6F 6E 6D 6E 6F 73
j[r]=05 08 0A 0D 11 14 18 1B 1E 23 28 2D 32 37 3C 43
j[k]=14 1E 23 28 2D 32 37 3C 41 46 50 5A 64 6E
l[0]=37 37 37 37 37 37 37 37
l[1]=37 2C 21 21 34 37 37 37
l[2]=37 2C 21 21 32 37 37 37
l[3]=37 2C 21 21 2C 39 39 39
l[4]=37 2C 27 27 2C 37 37 37
l[5]=44 3D 3B 3B 3F 44 44 44
l[6]=4D 4D 4D 4D 4D 4D 4D 4D
l[7]=51 51 51 51 51 51 51 51
l[r]=05 0A 14 1E 28 44 3C 43
l[k]=14 1E 28 32 3C 50 64 6C
n[0]=2B 33 3F 50 70 88 A0 AA B4 B4 B4 B4
n[1]=2C 34 3F 50 70 88 A0 A9 B1 B2 B2 B1
n[2]=2C 34 3F 50 70 87 9E A6 AE AF AE AD
n[3]=2B 34 3F 50 70 86 9B A3 AA AB AA A9
n[4]=2B 34 3F 4F 70 85 99 9F A5 A6 A5 A5
n[5]=2B 34 3E 4D 70 83 96 9B A0 A0 A0 A0
n[6]=2B 34 3C 4A 70 81 91 97 9C 9C 9C 9C
n[7]=2B 34 3B 47 70 7E 8C 92 98 98 98 98
n[8]=29 33 39 3F 60 6F 7E 83 88 8A 8C 8F
n[9]=31 37 38 3B 54 5E 67 70 7A 7E 81 84
n[A]=30 36 3D 44 51 5A 63 67 6B 6E 71 73
n=30 36 40 49 4E 56 5D 5F 61 65 68 6B
n[r]=05 08 0C 10 14 19 1E 23 28 32 3C 43
n[k]=14 1E 23 28 2D 32 37 3C 4A 58 64 6C
t[0]=29 2A 29 28 26 25 24 23
b[0]=24 26 25 27 29 2B 29 28 28 2A 2E 2C
e[0]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 68 68
e[1]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 68 68
e[2]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 68 68
e[3]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 68 68
e[4]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 68 68
e[5]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 68 68
e[6]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 70 74
e[7]=CC B4 98 80 68 68 74 80
e[r]=3C 50 64 78 8C A0 B4 C8
e[k]=00 10 29 43 67 9A CD FD
y[0]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[1]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[2]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[3]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[4]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[5]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[6]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[7]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[8]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[9]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[A]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
y[r]=05 08 0C 10 14 19 1E 23 28 32 3C 43
y[k]=14 1E 23 28 2D 32 37 3C 4A 58 64 6C
i[0]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[1]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[2]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[3]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[4]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[5]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[6]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[7]=00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
i[r]=0A 14 1E 23 27 29 32 3C
i[k]=32 37 3A 3B 3C 41 47 4B
w[0]=00 00 00 04 07 0A 0D 10
w[1]=00 00 01 04 08 0B 0E 12
w[2]=00 00 01 04 08 0C 10 13
w[3]=00 00 01 05 09 0D 11 15
w[4]=00 00 02 06 0A 0E 12 17
w[5]=00 00 02 07 0C 10 15 1A
w[6]=00 00 03 09 0F 15 1B 21
w[7]=00 00 04 0C 13 1A 21 28
w[r]=3C 78 82 8C 96 A0 AA B4
w[k]=00 10 1F 2E 43 67 B3 FD
s[0]=FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
s[1]=0A 1E 32 46 5A 6E 96 00


BTW how to rewrite serial number?

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 08:19:07 pm »
Now I did upgrade firmware to 1.1.70. But it doesn't help to fix ignition advance problem.
When use the newest VemsTune software in Tools is Ignition lock menu, after open
this window and close advance working good. But after restart engine have the same problem.

New movie where the problem shown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1z2ETqOV0g

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 05:48:59 am »
Where did you buy your board? You have problem with serial number of board.
If board is original(genie) it can be fix.

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 05:57:32 am »
If your ECU has serial number 0 it will lock the advance to 10 degrees. This is a feature to avoid hardware piracy.
Your ECU should have a serial number printed on the outside of the case, and written on the board inside.
Your config clearly lacks this information..

If your CPU has been replaced it needs a proper bootloader, best way to fix this is sending it back to Hungary and let them do the job.

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 05:59:10 am »
Or to near dealer who has spi programator. Where are you from?

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 02:07:40 pm »
Thx for explanation.
I'm from Poland and get ECU from polish reseller ProjectXS from Krakow. Original serial number was 2557. I has connected
battery charger during cranking (now I know is no good idea) and ECU blocked. Bought STK200 programmer (very cheap)
and free PonyProg2000 to reflash it. OK if no solution to fix it I'll try send my ECU to reseller.

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Re: Mercedes 190 2.6 with Vems
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 04:21:03 am »
Hallo again.
Ignition problem is fixed.
I have a question who has a more experience white Vems.
Can someone take a look on log and let me know this VE table is OK or should be improved.
When I quick accelerate car have ~0.5s lag.
Here is my log: http://www.mediafire.com/file/wms31j109bfqo18/v3.6_n002557-2010.07.03-19.39.02.vemslog
Thx for any help.