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Trigger settings 60-2 from VW Lupo on Audi I5
« on: August 01, 2012, 05:14:02 pm »
Hello,
i have many trouble with my Engine.
It is a I5 20V ABY Engine with Vems 3.7 PNP Board and optimated for Hall as Primary Trigger.
The Engine does not Start.has only failed ingnitions...
I have installed the Trigger 60-2 with a Hallsensor from a VW LUPO.
The Trigger has installed with 1.Cyl on TDC.The distand from the gab to the hallsender is ~84degree.
Here is a Picture from the Primary Trigger Settings:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/triggersettingsvisual.jpg/
Here is a Triggerlog:
   v3.3_u004841-2012-08-01-17.46.05.triggerlog
   http://www.file-upload.net/download-4623435/v3.3_u004841-2012-08-01-17.46.05.triggerlog.html

What for settings must i use?
TDC after the Trigger with 84° also not working...

Thank you

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Re: Trigger settings 60-2 from VW Lupo on Audi I5
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 07:24:43 am »
Problem is - camsync signal occurs after missing @ cyl 1. If it is not solvable you can start from cyl5 what comes 84+72 deg after missing. Reasonable trigger setting then could be first trigger tooth 16, TDC after the trigger 60.

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Re: Trigger settings 60-2 from VW Lupo on Audi I5
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2012, 12:30:30 pm »
Hello Gints,
i have changed the Sparkplugwires.The Firing Order is maybe wrong?
I have changed from
Cyl.1 to Coil 5
Cyl.2 to Coil 3
Cyl.3 to Coil 4
Cyl.4 to Coil 1
Cyl.5 to Coil 2

actually runs the Engine with TDC after the Trigger "~17" and first trigger tooth "0"
but with to much retarded Ignition.Test it with the strobing light.I must much more in the negative area at "TDC after the Trigger".But that would be in the red range!

what do you meen with start from cyl5???
With TDC after the Trigger 60 and first trigger tooth 16 the Engine doesn't start.

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Re: Trigger settings 60-2 from VW Lupo on Audi I5
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2012, 02:12:22 pm »
Spark wires???
Firing order is 12453. Normally cyl 1 should be in same table row where zero in ref. tooth table. With starting with cyl5 I mean put cyl 5 in this row. So vems start from 5: 53124.
Note! Vems conunt from bottom to top direction in those tables.

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Re: Trigger settings 60-2 from VW Lupo on Audi I5
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 03:12:18 pm »
Hello,
here are my settings :


-Cyl 1 : StepperD
-Cyl 2 : StepperC
-Cyl 4 : StepperB
-Cyl 5 : StepperA
-Cyl 3 : Ignch4

And here with firing order 53124 and the TDC after 60 and trigger tooth 16

Is it like they mean it?
And this works with a other firing order???

The settings for Injectors stay??? Or must change the Injector table to?

Thanks a lot Gints

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Re: Trigger settings 60-2 from VW Lupo on Audi I5
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 04:28:46 pm »
Hello Gints,
we have tested with our Settings.Car runs! wonderful thank you.
With Strobelight we flashed the TDC after the Trigger. New TDC after the Trigger is : 50°

Here are the old (factory Injektortable)

Is these Injektortable right for the original firing order 12453 ???

And here are the new Injektortable with firing order 53124

Is my new Injektortable good ???

Injector outputs from the Wiki:
-Cyl1>EC36-pin20  Inj-D
-Cyl2>EC36-pin8   Inj-C
-Cyl3>EC36-pin9   Inj-E
-Cyl4>EC36-pin19 Inj-B
-Cyl5>EC36-pin7   Inj-A

thanks
« Last Edit: August 03, 2012, 04:32:24 pm by audis2turbo »