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Offline gunni

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Why no CAN ?
« on: March 05, 2014, 10:14:03 pm »
Will there be CAN at all in VEMS?

I work in top level motorsport on a daily basis, and essentially/literally todays race/club cars wouldn´t work without CAN of some sort.

With proper GUI implementation it could be an incredible asset to the ecu and allow VEMS to develop additional hardware to go with it.
number one would be SD card logger via pre-defined CAN stream, allowing high speed logging and instant offloading. It also allows the ECU to be used with any of the video recording loggers for race cars. VBOX , RACE KEEPER and so on, they all accept CAN streams and could receive the basic signals from VEMS.
It would also allow a 1MBIT CAN stream to the Laptop. This can provide high speed logging as well as alot more detailed data stream from ECU - LAPTOP without lack of stream speed.

The possibilities become literally endless.
Output to CAN logger, to dash, to car electronics, gearboxes, diff controllers, other VEMS designed hardware
Input from CAN analog/digital expansion box, from ABS modules ( wheel speeds , ABS activity, G sensors ), from OEM control modules, from Lambda boxes, from EGT sensor boxes and so on and so on.

Ideally ditching the whole AIM protocol to the VEMS round would be the best starting point and use CAN. Any channel from the ecu without limitations could be sent from the ECU to the Round for viewing.

free .dbc file editor/viewer
http://www.kvaser.com/software/7330130980334/V2/UG_98033_kvaser_database_editor_userguide.pdf
Could be used to make CAN streams for the ECU. .dbc file format is the industry standard.
So you would simply load the ecu with a .dbc file and jobs done.

More on CAN
http://www.kvaser.com/software/7330130980914/V1/can2spec.pdf

http://www.kvaser.com/support/downloads/

Thoughts?

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 08:46:23 am »
Hello Gunni,

We are already making developments in this direction (currently in prototype HW stage). More info will be available in due time.

Best regards, Dave

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 04:15:06 pm »
Thumps up  :)
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Offline gunni

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2014, 08:35:10 pm »
That is great news Dave.

any potential VEMS hardware that will be CAN based?

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2014, 09:29:00 pm »
maybe new version of vems board?
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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 09:48:47 pm »
I meant something like analog expansion hardware, logger and so on

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2014, 11:36:14 pm »
anyway expansion hw would be great  :o
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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2014, 08:55:31 am »
The new module is expansion, used together with v3 and acts as a bridge (USB, CAN, several serial ports), adds considerable analog and digital io, adds even more trigger inputs, adds considerable amount of high side drivers and high current push pull driver (ETC control) has onboard logging (SD card) with RTC.

All will be elaborated in due time.

Best regards, Dave

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2014, 01:10:47 pm »
Now that is some good news !!

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2014, 09:47:19 pm »
Thumps up   ;D ;D

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2014, 04:10:53 pm »
The new module is expansion, used together with v3 and acts as a bridge (USB, CAN, several serial ports), adds considerable analog and digital io, adds even more trigger inputs, adds considerable amount of high side drivers and high current push pull driver (ETC control) has onboard logging (SD card) with RTC.

All will be elaborated in due time.

Best regards, Dave

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2014, 11:56:29 pm »
The new module is expansion, used together with v3 and acts as a bridge (USB, CAN, several serial ports), adds considerable analog and digital io, adds even more trigger inputs, adds considerable amount of high side drivers and high current push pull driver (ETC control) has onboard logging (SD card) with RTC.

All will be elaborated in due time.

Best regards, Dave

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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2014, 05:36:49 pm »
Awesome :)

I had been wondering if a V4 board or something would be released to include these options.

Keep up the good work!
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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 05:30:20 pm »
Awesome :)

I had been wondering if a V4 board or something would be released to include these options.

Keep up the good work!
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Re: Why no CAN ?
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2015, 05:51:34 pm »
Some news about this?

I have a Dash 2 that I would like to get up and working with my Vems.
Race Technology serial interface for vems is of no use  ( just gives random numbers)