Author Topic: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder  (Read 27880 times)

Offline GintsK

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2009, 12:12:15 am »
Ouch!  :o
May be you can find a way save your .msq on public server and give us only link. e.g. rapidshare.com
I tried put together your pieces. No success...

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2009, 12:20:09 am »
Okay - email me the msq file and I will put it on the server so it can be downloaded.

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2009, 04:36:12 am »

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2009, 01:05:27 am »
Now it opens.
I see some misconfiguration in secondary trigger:
angular width of tooth lower byte must be 6deg*4=24 (0.25deg step)
angular width of tooth upper byte must be 0 (http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=GenBoard%2FUnderDevelopment%2FFirmwareChanges read notes on 1.1.30 and 1.1.32)
Engine phase to reset 64 [720deg*4=2880 (in 0.25degries) ; 2880/256=11.25 (8bit counter); 0.25*256=64 (raw counter value at reset)]  ;)

It is good idea to upgrade firmware to something newer - these settings now are much more straightforward and user friendly.
Recheck your advance after changes, please!

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2009, 03:34:24 am »
Hello GintsK

Thank you for this very good Tip :D

The engine is runing without problems over 4000 rpm

I´m working 2 weeks with this problem, but my problem is that my english is very bad and I understand many Details from vems wiki not.

Thank you and good time




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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2009, 03:55:11 am »
Those of us with good English cannot understand the wiki.

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2009, 10:34:45 am »
Hello Rob

thats right what you say.

with bad english is this problem bigger, the translate programs for technical english is all shit.

Thank´s for the help at this Community Forum

@GintsK All what you say was rihgt i have only change this value and the engine was running perfect Thanks again.

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2009, 03:32:37 pm »
with bad english is this problem bigger, the translate programs for technical english is all shit.

Much of the wiki is written by people who have english as their second language, although their english is very good (better than any second language that I have) it does lead to confusion sometimes.

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2009, 10:30:33 pm »
Regler, remember recheck advance. And also you need to fill MAT table. Otherwise you leaves without any correction from air temperature.

English in some wiki pages together with abbreviations from config.txt and coders slang are some kind of brain workout. I can't understand these sentences for hours and days either! But sometimes I am a winner: light comes up and expose the real matter of authors ideas.  ;D Not an easy reading!

English is not my second language. It's third after Russian. May be that is a problem...

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2009, 02:21:54 am »
Hello GintsK

Yes its right i must make the Mat correction.

i was today with this car and Vems ecu on Dynometer the result is very good :)

670HP and 900 NM Torque at 3900 rpm have the car 600 Nm and at 5000 rpm 900 NM Torque with 2,5L 5 cylinder Turbo

Have you experience with Antilag and Launch Control with Megatune?


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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2009, 02:52:02 am »
How can to fit a picture in a post, or Rob can I send the Dyno Picture to you at email?

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2009, 02:01:11 pm »
Wow 900Nm! What engine internals you use! What turbo? I suppose boost is about 3bar?

Last season I was problems with launch control. I can not adjust it for stable boost on strat line. On low retarding it rises too slowly, with high retard boost goes up to regulated by W-gate boost. And it was too much. You can find description of problem in my wiki and here also.

My idea for  new season is use switchable config, when launch is active. It allow to set another boost level desired at start line.

In newer firmwares shift cut is improved - not 100% cut and retarded ignition. It can be used to keep boost during shifting. Last year was no chance.
I have no experience with ALS.

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2009, 02:56:03 pm »
How can to fit a picture in a post, or Rob can I send the Dyno Picture to you at email?

and post your engine specs as well

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2009, 04:40:52 am »
Hello gunni,

the engine is a 2,5l 5 cylinder 20V Turbo with GT35 Turbocharger mechnic valve mahle race pistons specific exhaust manifold and and.....

if rob gives OK I send the pictures

@gintsK

The pressure for 900NM are 2,8 bar (with atmosphäre 3,8 bar) and at max power is the pressure 2,3 bar

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Re: Audi 20V Turbo 5 Cylinder
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2009, 07:12:18 am »
Any changes to the head, camshaft, valvetrain?