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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2009, 11:26:40 pm »
Ignition type is not EDIS,its DUMMY!
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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2009, 11:28:13 pm »
set ignition outputs to 05..00, set output channels all to 0(35), set reftooth h1 table from top to bottom: 0 40 20 0 40 20, check h2 that there is ign on top 8 and 0 on bottom 8 selection.

thanks!

setting it up now.

h2 looks ok  ign's an zeros.

h1 was empty just 0 0 0 ...
and ign was like on the picture...

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2009, 11:48:40 pm »
some screen shoots...
it's rainy freezing here in croatia :)

still no luck no spark. i'l try with spare coil.











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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2009, 12:16:54 am »
is it ok to check if coil is getting GND signal from pin 35? there is +12 on coil...     using dvm on coil + an - while trying to start?

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2009, 01:18:28 am »
Yes just unhook both wires from your coil and use a beep test on the signal wire to ground
then when the ecu grounds to create a signal you´ll hear the beeping.

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2009, 01:35:22 am »
are u getting any trigger errors?

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2009, 05:25:32 pm »

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0wm2ns
above is my log file .xls

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2009, 05:37:39 pm »
Yes just unhook both wires from your coil and use a beep test on the signal wire to ground
then when the ecu grounds to create a signal you´ll hear the beeping.

using beep test on dvm  between pin 35 ign00 and ground i dont get any readings or hear beeps ...
dvm is working ok.

so what's my options. i have external ignition driver next to bosch coil. il take a picture. don't know how to connect it. does this mean i have to unsolder ignition driver fet from the board?

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2009, 05:52:34 pm »

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2009, 06:57:35 pm »
here it is:




can anyone check log to see why vems dont have coil signal on pin 35?

and how to wire this "electronic ignition module" to vems do i have to remove ignition driver from the board?


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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2009, 07:21:46 pm »
i'm thinking of connectin external ignition control module to pin 36. that's ignition otput 30 and i dont have anything solder on vems board on it's (ign 30) place.

will it work?
can i do beep DVM test on pin 35 after changing config to pin 36..?

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2009, 07:55:35 pm »
You have a few choices:
If you have a channel on the VEMS that is populated with an IGBT you could connect directly to pin B on the coil.

If you have "logic" (gate wired to source on the board) then you can use that to drive pin4 of the Electronic Ignition Module (N1).

Or you might be able to use the stepper output to drive pin4.

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2009, 10:26:19 pm »
You have a few choices:
If you have a channel on the VEMS that is populated with an IGBT you could connect directly to pin B on the coil.

If you have "logic" (gate wired to source on the board) then you can use that to drive pin4 of the Electronic Ignition Module (N1).

Or you might be able to use the stepper output to drive pin4.

this is what  i have

 how to wire logic gate (pin 36) to drive pin4 on electronic ignition module? could you edit some picture in Paint or sometihng.
igbt is onley on pin 35 ign00 but it dosen't work... no beep using dvm...

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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2009, 11:18:45 pm »
I´m going to go out on a limb and say you are assembling yourself?

#1. Have you configured the board for VR sensor or Hall?


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Re: help with initial configuration for alfa 2.0 v6 turbo
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2009, 12:01:12 am »
yes, it was a kit.

sensor is configured as vr.

it reads 60rpm when cracking. it seems low. sensor is working it has 3 wires, shield ground and signal.

both ground and shield is connected to the ground. signal is conencted to vems.
vems v3.5 is configured to VR.