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Technical => Wideband & EGT Gauge => Topic started by: z0tya on November 06, 2008, 11:00:03 AM

Title: RPM input
Post by: z0tya on November 06, 2008, 11:00:03 AM
What kind of protection have the rpm input pin?
Can I put on signal from the ignition coil primary side, or just 0-12v rpm signal from ecu or from ignition module?

Thanks
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: [email protected] on November 06, 2008, 11:13:49 AM
I'm not sure about the protection, never having seen the schematics for the gauge.
As a matter of course I would use a Zener diode to block any spikes from the ignition coil.
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: z0tya on November 06, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
The webshop 18V unidirectional transient diode will be good? How put am I into the circuit?
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: [email protected] on November 06, 2008, 03:35:41 PM
I think a plain 18v Zener would be best - mounted with the stripe facing the coil

Coil(-) -------|<----- RPM input
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: z0tya on November 06, 2008, 08:16:46 PM
Thanx
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: kristjan on June 20, 2009, 04:24:53 AM
I have a bit different problem about rpm input, but I thought I won't start a new thread for it. The problem is that the rpm signal is very bumpy at both Megatune and in the gauge. I took the rpm signal form the coil directly to pin 10 on the 15 pin connector. But on idle the rpm gauge jumps a great deal (from 500-2000rpm, occasionally higer and lower too). It's jumping while cruising too.

That's how the rpm signal shows in the logviewer.
(http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll373/kristjanl/log.jpg)

What could be causing this problem? I have the RPM settings set to 8 (4 teeth per camrot, stock distributar hall sensor on mk2 golf) teeth and the multiplier is 229. I don't know what firmware is on the gauge, it's borrowed from a friend.

Edit: My stock tacho is working in perfect order from the same source.
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: kristjan on June 23, 2009, 06:41:39 PM
Anybody?? Got the multimeter and measerd the values from pin 10 (RPM input) and 11 (RPM reference). The RPM input measures around 12.2V and the RPM reference 2.80-2.87V. It's a cheap multimeter so there might be some variations in the measurements. AFAIK the 2.8V in the reference pin is ok and no pull-up nor pull-down resistor is needed. Why is the RPM reading so bumpy then?
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: ranz on June 25, 2009, 05:55:08 PM
Take the signal to the gauge from cable to original tacho. I had almoust the same problem, I taked the signal directly from RMP sensor and the signal was jumpy, now I connected it to the cable from ECU to tacho and the reading is almoust OK (it has some random spikes, but I have not seen anybody finding cure for that).
Title: Re: RPM input
Post by: kristjan on June 26, 2009, 01:33:41 PM
Well, I don't have an ecu and I have already tried to take the signal from the tacho, but it has the same problem because it's the same signal. I quess I'll just have to live without the tacho reading.

Tnx for your reply though.