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VEMS => Calibration & Mapping => Topic started by: Arvid on November 30, 2008, 02:29:35 PM

Title: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: Arvid on November 30, 2008, 02:29:35 PM
Is there someone who has some suggestions for a ok  "mat enrichment table", that I can use?
I've firmware 1.1.44  :)
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: dnb on December 01, 2008, 01:33:50 AM
What engine?
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: MWfire on December 01, 2008, 11:02:02 AM
Can you give me suggestion for opel 2.0 8V engine(no turbo for now)?
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: Arvid on December 01, 2008, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: dnb on December 01, 2008, 01:33:50 AM
What engine?

It is a Volvo B230, 4syl, without  turbo,  :)
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: dnb on December 01, 2008, 07:52:49 PM
Quote from: Arvid on December 01, 2008, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: dnb on December 01, 2008, 01:33:50 AM
What engine?

It is a Volvo B230, 4syl, without  turbo,  :)

First guess would be something like
0% from -40C to 20C, and ramp up to 15-20% by 60C
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: gunni on December 01, 2008, 08:03:41 PM
(http://www.gstuning.net/files/images/vems/standard%20temp%20biased.jpg)

This is based on the standard pressure / temp and biased at 20C.

it wouldnÃ,´t be right to not put more fuel in as charge getÃ,´s colder , meaning more and more density , meaning more oxygen in the same volume.
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: GintsK on December 01, 2008, 08:48:34 PM
My table:
(http://pic2.fotki.lv/photos2/10/W0002484/000248316/000024831560_%23_2_%23_GintsK.jpg)
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: dnb on December 02, 2008, 01:16:42 AM
Quote from: gunni on December 01, 2008, 08:03:41 PM
it wouldnÃ,´t be right to not put more fuel in as charge getÃ,´s colder , meaning more and more density , meaning more oxygen in the same volume.

I was under the impression that MAT enrichment was an additional offset to GammaMAT found in the ideal gas equations the ECU does to work out the fuelling.   

Is this not the case with 1.1.44?  I know it is with 1.0.79.
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: [email protected] on December 02, 2008, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: dnb on December 01, 2008, 07:52:49 PM
First guess would be something like
0% from -40C to 20C, and ramp up to 15-20% by 60C

Don't forget that the system is biased around 100%.  So no change is 100%, -10% would be 90% and of course +10% is 110%
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: gunni on December 02, 2008, 03:19:05 PM
Quote from: dnb on December 02, 2008, 01:16:42 AM
Quote from: gunni on December 01, 2008, 08:03:41 PM
it wouldnÃ,´t be right to not put more fuel in as charge getÃ,´s colder , meaning more and more density , meaning more oxygen in the same volume.

I was under the impression that MAT enrichment was an additional offset to GammaMAT found in the ideal gas equations the ECU does to work out the fuelling.   

Is this not the case with 1.1.44?  I know it is with 1.0.79.

I belive this is that table and is now editable.
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: GintsK on December 02, 2008, 07:48:59 PM
Quote from: dnb on December 02, 2008, 01:16:42 AM
Quote from: gunni on December 01, 2008, 08:03:41 PM
it wouldnÃ,´t be right to not put more fuel in as charge getÃ,´s colder , meaning more and more density , meaning more oxygen in the same volume.

I was under the impression that MAT enrichment was an additional offset to GammaMAT found in the ideal gas equations the ECU does to work out the fuelling.   

Is this not the case with 1.1.44?  I know it is with 1.0.79.
Here is Andreys answer:
http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=MembersPage%2FAndrey%2FMatTable
In short - MAT table is only correction.
Title: Re: vems mat enrichment firmware 1.1.44
Post by: dnb on December 03, 2008, 08:21:00 PM
So a retrograde step in the new firmware then.  :(